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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:59 pm

Whores is ok against slow 4s, thats about it
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:01 pm

As PG or a point forward?
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:01 pm

Now I want Craxers ffs :yao3:
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Bounce wrote:
As PG or a point forward?

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:09 pm

eh nevermind, we'll get bored at some point or the whole thing will reach a point where it freezes and you can't advance
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:24 pm

Bryan won't approve Turner at PG. Chris MVP Duhon

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:43 pm

We can deal with Bynum, and yes I'm afraid of him since Paul dominated 24/7 with him, I'm with Doc, Bynum>Howard...

To me he is so dominant and he's bigger that Dwight...

It will be interesting, Philly, NY, BK, Boston all human coaches...

Same division, LOVELY INDEED...

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:17 pm

Turner @ PG might be OK. It really depends how 2k13 plays. On 2k12 having a SG/combo play PG was no advantage. Which is why nobody did it. On 2k9/10/11 it was huge advantage (BRoy rule). Why not Holiday @ PG? smh. Turner @ backup PG would be tolerable.

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Jrue can't play all 32 (?) min. There's a need for someone else to take over for 5 min. Royal Ivey says hi.
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:39 pm

how can anyone say bynum is better than howard? Right now I dont like howard at all but saying that bynum is better is bullshit.
Dwight is 3x dpoy and so much better defender in overall,hes better rebounder..plays better picknrolls and he is more effective.bbynum had one all star season..dwight had several.
Also bynum isnt a guy to build around..and he desperately needs to mature.I dont see sixers being significantly better,but I might be wrong.And yea..bynum has glass knees.putting those two in same sentence is nonsense.
Right now in nba there is dwight..and there are other centers.
After all lakers traded away bynum to get howard..that explains it all.

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:30 am

Bynum is on another level on offense compared to D12 and it's not even close. And I certainly wouldn't say Bynum is a defensive liability either. He's a fairly complete player. You also need to remember that Bynum has shared the spot light with Gasol and Bryant over the years, which is going to cut into his numbers and awards. D12 has had everything catered to him over the years and what's he and Orlando have to show for it? 1 Finals appearance and a side of disappointment. Some token DPOY trophies?

I wouldn't build around Bynum simply because I don't trust him maturity wise. His skill is proven. D12 hasn't proven he's a winner yet. He's more concerned with his image and being an entertainer than he is with winning IMO. Kobe will need to change that mentality fast.

I still don't think TODAY that D12 is much better than Bynum. If this were video games I'd rate D12 about 89 ovr and Bynum 87. I just don't see it as some huge upgrade right now. 5 years from now absolutely. That's why I still don't understand why the Lakers are automatic champs now after trading a guy who is 87 ovr and getting back someone who is 89 ovr. :mcg:

Time will tell. Maybe D12 will finally grow up himself.

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:47 am

CPU_SteveNash is like 104 ovr.
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:50 am

Bounce wrote:
CPU_SteveNash is like 104 ovr.

That's true. We got a front row seat for that today. At least Ante did.
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:54 am

I cant agree with you on this one.Dwight Howard defensively is miracle worker.
when he got injured..orlando went 5-12 or something like that.He held the defense solely and controled the boards.Orlando had five 50+ seasons..they went to finals once and once ecf.Thats pretty good for a small market team.Howard made mediocre team..a contender.Bynum cant do that.

You say that bynum didnt score so much and rebound because of gasol and kobe,well i think that he was that good because of gasol and kobe.You cant guard everyone.

But time will definitely tell.I predict dwights numbers to drop slightly this season but im sure that lakers are going to wcf.Only okc can stop them.
Kinda sad though..right now in nba are 3 teams that fight for ship.Stern at his best.

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:01 am

Bryan wrote:
Bynum is on another level on offense compared to D12 and it's not even close. And I certainly wouldn't say Bynum is a defensive liability either. He's a fairly complete player. You also need to remember that Bynum has shared the spot light with Gasol and Bryant over the years, which is going to cut into his numbers and awards. D12 has had everything catered to him over the years and what's he and Orlando have to show for it? 1 Finals appearance and a side of disappointment. Some token DPOY trophies?

I wouldn't build around Bynum simply because I don't trust him maturity wise. His skill is proven. D12 hasn't proven he's a winner yet. He's more concerned with his image and being an entertainer than he is with winning IMO. Kobe will need to change that mentality fast.

I still don't think TODAY that D12 is much better than Bynum. If this were video games I'd rate D12 about 89 ovr and Bynum 87. I just don't see it as some huge upgrade right now. 5 years from now absolutely. That's why I still don't understand why the Lakers are automatic champs now after trading a guy who is 87 ovr and getting back someone who is 89 ovr. :mcg:

Time will tell. Maybe D12 will finally grow up himself.
I agree, but one wrong thing is that, this guy is a winner, he always made the playoffs, except like rookie year...So those guys who didn't won a championship, but did some great things in the playoffs and carried their teams to the playoffs ARE WINNERS...Not the great winners, but are winners...So Charles Barkley ain't a winner? Howard won an olympic medal too, winner...But to me offensively he ain't better than Bynum...

Also D12 wanted a trade, to WIN it all now right? SO he's mindset is changing A LOT...

Man guarding Nash and Calderon is like, wow, front row seat + a lap dance by Nash...

IMO the Clippers could stop em if they change the coach... But that won't happen...
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:31 am

Winning the gold medal with team USA is the default one you'll get unless your team USA is consisted of Marbury and boys. :roll: That doesn't really say much.
Also reaching the first or second round of playoffs isn't such a big feat and doesn't make you a winner, KG did that like 8 times before the trade, and even Iggy played in like 6 playoffs in 8 seasons and no one would ever called them a winner just by reaching the playoffs. Patrick Ewing reached playoffs like 15 times and still is considered one of the biggest losers ever simply because to be the winner you actually have to win something other than a gold medal on a team with 10 other hall of famers.

Also asking for a trade has more to do with him wanting to play on the bigger stage like NY or LA and gaining exposure, all while teaming up with 2 or 3 other All Stars to make it easier to lose the etiquette of an "failure" who never won the title. Same happened with LeBron, and look how ridiculed he was before and how respected he is now only because of 1 title.

I agree that Dwight is around 88 and Bynum is 85.

lolDwight and lolBynum, BJ Mullens and Tyrus Thomas would demolish both of them on a sunny day. All while Carroll hits 1 of 2 halfcourt shots.
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:41 am

I don't agree, winning a GOLD MEDAL isn't default, that's HARD work and beating Spain in the finals HELL reaching to the finals is work...

So what, the guy is traded to win in LA, he wants to win, he's been to the finals ffs, you got to beat a lot of teams to get there, show respect...

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:45 am

Losing 5 games in 20 Olympics = default gold. Hard work Chris MVP Duhon
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:14 pm

Whatever...

Nothing is given in sports, believe me, but I guess you don't respect that...

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:17 pm

Respect? Does your "whatever" respect me? Felton
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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:19 pm

I do...

Winning that amount of games in 20 Olympics is hard work and dedication brah and talent...That was my point...

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:20 pm

Luka, game now?

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: ISBA: Preseason   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:28 pm

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